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		<title>By: Johan Derks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Derks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To demand signs in English, is rdiculous, Sir!
You people try to learn yourself some foreign language.
Anyway, there were translations in several languages among which English.

I agree with you that in general the warning signs are scarce,
but the only reason to get furious is the height of the fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To demand signs in English, is rdiculous, Sir!<br />
You people try to learn yourself some foreign language.<br />
Anyway, there were translations in several languages among which English.</p>
<p>I agree with you that in general the warning signs are scarce,<br />
but the only reason to get furious is the height of the fine.</p>
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		<title>By: NB</title>
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		<dc:creator>NB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardly a free ride, we would have gladly paid had we saw anything that resembled instruction. If the country wants tourists, they better damn well make sure people know what&#039;s expected with proper signs and hey, how about some in English, the universal language of business?? NO one is available at these tolls to help and even the people who stop you, can&#039;t speak English. Pretty stupid and such a scam to tourists, how convenient that they don&#039;t set up things in English.

We passed through Slovenia a few weeks ago via Austria and were completely baffled by the toll system. ABSOLUTELY NO English signs anywhere explaining you need to buy a sticker (and Vignette is not English btw - what the hell is this made-up word, not even French). We slowed as we got to the tolls, trying to find out where/who to pay, but were honked from behind to move, so we did. Got through Slovenia to Croatia ok, but when we went back to Austria a few days later, had the infamous pullover by DARS. The most rudest, combative person I have ever met demanding where our sticker was, our passports, rental car registration and then refusing to give any of it back until we made payment - which was only through ATM 5 km down the road -we couldn&#039;t drive there- or a broken credit card machine. Thankfully, my husband got to talk to asshole&#039;s superior and we made only 150E fine via another credit machine. 
We are never, EVER coming back to this country, it was indeed a waste of our time and energy. Guess you can&#039;t expect a former Communist country to get its act together and start welcoming new tourists, they will definitely hurt because of it. Good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardly a free ride, we would have gladly paid had we saw anything that resembled instruction. If the country wants tourists, they better damn well make sure people know what&#8217;s expected with proper signs and hey, how about some in English, the universal language of business?? NO one is available at these tolls to help and even the people who stop you, can&#8217;t speak English. Pretty stupid and such a scam to tourists, how convenient that they don&#8217;t set up things in English.</p>
<p>We passed through Slovenia a few weeks ago via Austria and were completely baffled by the toll system. ABSOLUTELY NO English signs anywhere explaining you need to buy a sticker (and Vignette is not English btw &#8211; what the hell is this made-up word, not even French). We slowed as we got to the tolls, trying to find out where/who to pay, but were honked from behind to move, so we did. Got through Slovenia to Croatia ok, but when we went back to Austria a few days later, had the infamous pullover by DARS. The most rudest, combative person I have ever met demanding where our sticker was, our passports, rental car registration and then refusing to give any of it back until we made payment &#8211; which was only through ATM 5 km down the road -we couldn&#8217;t drive there- or a broken credit card machine. Thankfully, my husband got to talk to asshole&#8217;s superior and we made only 150E fine via another credit machine.<br />
We are never, EVER coming back to this country, it was indeed a waste of our time and energy. Guess you can&#8217;t expect a former Communist country to get its act together and start welcoming new tourists, they will definitely hurt because of it. Good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: Failop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Failop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We read this forum as we are being stopped at this &quot;vignette enforcement&quot; stop.

Shortly after a tunnel, we were waved to the side of the road where all the other cars of tourists were parked. The DARS officer advised us of the vignette &quot;rule&quot; and the penalty of 300 euro. 

The DARS &quot;authorities&quot; (or should I say extortionists) took a picture of our car (I&#039;m sure preemptively to thwart any challenges of a valid vignette). They then asked for our rental car&#039;s registration, and for the driver to exit the car in order to pay the fine.

We had no cash and so paid by credit card. We had to fill out our mailing address so that we can receive a letter in a foreign language with no due process. The &quot;fine&quot; (or should I say payoff) is halved to 150 euro if we paid on the spot.

This imposes a financial levy only on tourists who likely will not have the resources, language comprehension, nor access to oppose this action. There is absolutely no notice or warning to visitors of this requirement and thus cannot pretend to be a legitimate &quot;rule of law.&quot;

If Slovenia wants a reputation of a country that takes advantage of visitors, that fails to accommodate tourists, that provides no notice, due process or justice, and extorts governmentally-sanctioned bribes--congratulations Slovenia-- you just lost a possible visitor who may have spent so much more than a pithy 150 euro (as well many other possible tourists whom will hear of this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We read this forum as we are being stopped at this &#8220;vignette enforcement&#8221; stop.</p>
<p>Shortly after a tunnel, we were waved to the side of the road where all the other cars of tourists were parked. The DARS officer advised us of the vignette &#8220;rule&#8221; and the penalty of 300 euro. </p>
<p>The DARS &#8220;authorities&#8221; (or should I say extortionists) took a picture of our car (I&#8217;m sure preemptively to thwart any challenges of a valid vignette). They then asked for our rental car&#8217;s registration, and for the driver to exit the car in order to pay the fine.</p>
<p>We had no cash and so paid by credit card. We had to fill out our mailing address so that we can receive a letter in a foreign language with no due process. The &#8220;fine&#8221; (or should I say payoff) is halved to 150 euro if we paid on the spot.</p>
<p>This imposes a financial levy only on tourists who likely will not have the resources, language comprehension, nor access to oppose this action. There is absolutely no notice or warning to visitors of this requirement and thus cannot pretend to be a legitimate &#8220;rule of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>If Slovenia wants a reputation of a country that takes advantage of visitors, that fails to accommodate tourists, that provides no notice, due process or justice, and extorts governmentally-sanctioned bribes&#8211;congratulations Slovenia&#8211; you just lost a possible visitor who may have spent so much more than a pithy 150 euro (as well many other possible tourists whom will hear of this).</p>
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		<title>By: Dušan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dušan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t understand people who complain on this site.
You tried a free ride, you got caught, you pay the fine.
As simple as that. All the complaining nonsense is just a waste of your precious life and energy.
You travel to a country you have never been, you inform yourself about the rules in that country. So what is next? A Chinese trying a free ride on the highway, and refusing to pay because there was no sign in Chinese?
The European law is based on the following principle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat

There are information signs on the border (in English and Slovenian), on each entry to the highway system, you can buy vignette on any gas station in Slovenia and in neighboring countries.
http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Methods_of_payment/Vehicles_up_to_35_t/Vignette/Sales_points_309.aspx
http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Methods_of_payment/Vehicles_under_35_t/Vignette/Questions_and_answers_about_vignette_312.aspx

Do you want to queue for 10 km to pick up highway toll ticket, and once again for 10 km once you need to exit the highway and pay it? This is what happens regularly in Italy during ferragosto period. Believe me, I have done it many times.
Austria and Switzerland also have Vignette system and I don&#039;t see anyone complaining. You don&#039;t like the Slovenian highways and pay the vignette, just make a detour. It is a small country, so it will be a small detour. Maybe other countries managed to build free highways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t understand people who complain on this site.<br />
You tried a free ride, you got caught, you pay the fine.<br />
As simple as that. All the complaining nonsense is just a waste of your precious life and energy.<br />
You travel to a country you have never been, you inform yourself about the rules in that country. So what is next? A Chinese trying a free ride on the highway, and refusing to pay because there was no sign in Chinese?<br />
The European law is based on the following principle:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat</a></p>
<p>There are information signs on the border (in English and Slovenian), on each entry to the highway system, you can buy vignette on any gas station in Slovenia and in neighboring countries.<br />
<a href="http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Methods_of_payment/Vehicles_up_to_35_t/Vignette/Sales_points_309.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Methods_of_payment/Vehicles_up_to_35_t/Vignette/Sales_points_309.aspx</a><br />
<a href="http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Methods_of_payment/Vehicles_under_35_t/Vignette/Questions_and_answers_about_vignette_312.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Methods_of_payment/Vehicles_under_35_t/Vignette/Questions_and_answers_about_vignette_312.aspx</a></p>
<p>Do you want to queue for 10 km to pick up highway toll ticket, and once again for 10 km once you need to exit the highway and pay it? This is what happens regularly in Italy during ferragosto period. Believe me, I have done it many times.<br />
Austria and Switzerland also have Vignette system and I don&#8217;t see anyone complaining. You don&#8217;t like the Slovenian highways and pay the vignette, just make a detour. It is a small country, so it will be a small detour. Maybe other countries managed to build free highways.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Derks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Derks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regret for you. Really !

This is probably the result of boarding out the execution of the law to a private firm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regret for you. Really !</p>
<p>This is probably the result of boarding out the execution of the law to a private firm.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Friday August 5th, my husband and I were stopped by DARS just before coming into Italy on the Slovania side. We had a vignette but we were fined 150 euros because the vignette was not stuck on the glass!  We were driving from Hungary to Italy and had the great misfortune of entering Slovania and actually spending our money for food, gaz and souvenirs in this country.  We have never been treated this way and feel they target tourists.  I am not even sure if this fine is actually legal and I just want to warn other people not to drive in Slovania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Friday August 5th, my husband and I were stopped by DARS just before coming into Italy on the Slovania side. We had a vignette but we were fined 150 euros because the vignette was not stuck on the glass!  We were driving from Hungary to Italy and had the great misfortune of entering Slovania and actually spending our money for food, gaz and souvenirs in this country.  We have never been treated this way and feel they target tourists.  I am not even sure if this fine is actually legal and I just want to warn other people not to drive in Slovania.</p>
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		<title>By: Croatia Expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Croatia Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can buy the Vigentte for Slovenia, on some gas stations in Germany and Austria, i am not sure about Switzerland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can buy the Vigentte for Slovenia, on some gas stations in Germany and Austria, i am not sure about Switzerland.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this all very interesting and a bit daunting.  Going to Croatia next month.  Can we buy a vignette in advance as you can in Austria &amp; Switzerland?

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this all very interesting and a bit daunting.  Going to Croatia next month.  Can we buy a vignette in advance as you can in Austria &amp; Switzerland?</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmet Celik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmet Celik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slovenia: the country of cruel and unusual punishment
If u are using Slovenian highways and don&#039;t know that you have to buy a highway ticket. They will burn you with 300 euro penalty. Plus they will sell you 15 ticket. This is very cruel and unusual punishment. 300 euro punishment for missing 15 euro ticket:((
Dont go the little county ...

If you pay the penalty on the spot they give you %50 discount.... You seeee how generous they are:)))) 150+15=165 Euro for a little country:)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slovenia: the country of cruel and unusual punishment<br />
If u are using Slovenian highways and don&#8217;t know that you have to buy a highway ticket. They will burn you with 300 euro penalty. Plus they will sell you 15 ticket. This is very cruel and unusual punishment. 300 euro punishment for missing 15 euro ticket:((<br />
Dont go the little county &#8230;</p>
<p>If you pay the penalty on the spot they give you %50 discount&#8230;. You seeee how generous they are:)))) 150+15=165 Euro for a little country:)))</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try to be a little more polite than Johan and hope my English passes his inspection:)
As soon as you enter the Slovenian motorway system, you need a valid vignette. If the vignette is not attached correctly, it is NOT valid, so it is impossible to safely &#039;share&#039; the vignette between different cars. There are spot checks, especially at toll areas, so any avoidance is a risk. At the border, you are an easy target and they&#039;ll get you every time. If you refuse to pay, they will just impound your car. As I&#039;ve mentioned in previous posts, non-motorway alternatives in Slovenia are generally not viable. 15 Euro vignette or 150 Euro fine? I know what I&#039;d choose. Slovenia will be switching to a per kilometre tariff motorway toll system in the next few years. This should make the cost fairer for passing traffic. We&#039;ll see ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try to be a little more polite than Johan and hope my English passes his inspection:)<br />
As soon as you enter the Slovenian motorway system, you need a valid vignette. If the vignette is not attached correctly, it is NOT valid, so it is impossible to safely &#8216;share&#8217; the vignette between different cars. There are spot checks, especially at toll areas, so any avoidance is a risk. At the border, you are an easy target and they&#8217;ll get you every time. If you refuse to pay, they will just impound your car. As I&#8217;ve mentioned in previous posts, non-motorway alternatives in Slovenia are generally not viable. 15 Euro vignette or 150 Euro fine? I know what I&#8217;d choose. Slovenia will be switching to a per kilometre tariff motorway toll system in the next few years. This should make the cost fairer for passing traffic. We&#8217;ll see &#8230;</p>
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